Jacob Ludwig Carl Grimm as my 7th cousin, 4 times removed, is possible only if his lineage can be believed with his two times grandfather being born when his three times great grandfather was only 14! I know they started younger back in the 17th century, but at 14? To get the the suggested MRCA, Hans Kiese (1583-1628), the 4 times great grandfather of Magdalena Dockstader, my 4 times great grandmother and the furthest documented ancestor I have in that lineage, I have a great deal of research in Germany to complete. This was for notice # 365. In notice #231, Related wanted me to believe that my 8th great grandfather, Hans Jerg Hermann (1672-1714) fathered Anna MArie Hermann (1674-1735) at AGE 2! Either notice does not take into account normal ages for procreation and just accepts whatever uncontrolled, undocumented names and dates someone throws out there.